You're Not Schizoid
By Jessika Endsley
Hi. This is Dizzy and I'm going to talk about how you are possibly not schizoid. I go over the symptoms for now. Prefer being alone, usually choose solitary activities. People with schizoid personality disorder like being alone. They do not feel the need to have friendship unlike Aspergers and schizotypal where there's a need but a misunderstanding. They crave independence and have few close relationships yet again they don't need you. Feel confused about how to respond to normal social cues and generally have little to say. Schizoids live in the mind, they're not going to sit and wonder what they should say, they're not going to sit and try to figure out what would be the appropriate response because quite frankly they don't care. Lack any desire for sexual relationships. Some do want sexual relationships but they don't want the emotional part that's involved with it a lot of the times. But for the most part they just don't care. They are very in their heads, in other words they feel unable to experience pleasure. For most people, laymen, this sounds awful for someone who is a schizoid it's not so bad, it's along with not being able to experience pleasure, they don't like to experience much pain so it's not much of a problem for them.
It's actually a very peaceful existence. Come off as dull, indifferent or emotionally cold. Schizoid don't care about you, they don't care about how you feel, they don't feel anything, they are very aloof. Schizoid is the absolute perfect example of aloof okay. They feel unmotivated and tend to under perform at school or work because in the schizoid mind, why bother. They have other stuff going on much more important and it's all up here. Consistently play the role of a follower rather than leader, not because they believe that the leader is smarter than they are, it's because they just don't give a fuck . That's the best way I can put it. Schizoid don't care, they know what's best and they know it in their head. They aren't going to actively seek out, they're not gonna be a Godly figure here okay, like they don't care about the rest of the population, it's them. So what I'm getting at here is that you are probably not a schizoid. Anyone who has frequent emotional outburst and lots of paranoia, you're not a schizoid, you're just not.
If you have hallucinations, you're not a schizoid. Mostly when I'm clinging to here is emotional outburst. If you have a lot of them, you're not schizoid. Schizoids feel not much. So don't call yourself such. If you just play some of this symptoms and you do have strong emotions, strong feelings, strong morals, et cetera. You might be schizotypal and you really might be schizo-affective especially if you're depressive bi-polar or manic-type with schiz symptoms. Schizoids rarely develop into schizophrenics. They don't experience the realization in the same way that a schizotypal would or schizo-affective so do what you will with that but don't self diagnose when you are claiming schizoid but you have all these rising emotions and stuff because that's not schizoid. So, that's my thought for the day. Thank you and have a good day.
1.  Katelyn Tuesday, May 6, 2014
I am a schizoid(every symptom but the following one applies to me), but I personally don't agree with the symptom of not understanding social cues and being basically idle in conversations. I am the leader in many of the conversations that I have, not by choice, but because many people want to talk to me. I understand lots of social cues and why other people do things. They just usually apply to me.
2.  Commony McProletariat Saturday, May 17, 2014
Besides all that blah blah, does any of you has that picky eating thing as well? I'm male, 30, and I work out hard but I just hate solid food, it makes me want to throw up. All I want to have is the strawberry smoothy from my favorit place. I have been like that since I was a child. It seems all my symptoms are getting bolder as I grow older. (Heh, I made a song)
3.  Jessika Endsley Tuesday, May 20, 2014
I have met other Schizoids with thjs trait but have yet to find information regarding this issue. This may be due to Schizoid's rarely participating on studies.
4.  Commony McProletariat Tuesday, May 20, 2014
There is very little about schizoid PD, it is as if it is being deliberately ignored by the international psychiatric society, I guess they think if they pretend we don't exist we will go away. I don't expect them to come to my place and convince me to cry on their shoulders, but I'm sure if they give me enough material to read I can improve my life even further. We cannot do everything on our own you know, WE ARE VERY INTERESTING! THEIR LOSS!
5.  Jessika Endsley Tuesday, May 20, 2014
Schizoid's don't often want help - and I'm not too convinced they need it. Trying to force help on people who are not psychotic and who are not a danger to themselves and others seems to be what psychiatrists love to do, but so far, Schizoid's are sliding by.
I would, however, be curious as to what things Schizoid's would want help with. My experience with them has shown that they often love to speculate on what would happen if they changed, why others would want them to change, the relevence of emotions, etc, but they are not happy being forced into "normal" lifestyles.
They make some of the best conversation partners.
6.  Jessika Endsley Tuesday, May 20, 2014
This is the case with many Schizoids. Often, the ones who are forced into "treatment" show no signs of being motivated to socialize with the health care professional and may neglect to use social skills, even if they can recognize them.
7.  Commony McProletariat Tuesday, May 20, 2014
I think it might be genetic, it runs in our family. Everyone is divorced, We only see each other when money or property is involved. We don't even go to each other's funerals. We all live alone and far away from each other. We all like arts but we are not good at them, but we try. The only thing we ever talk about is genes.
But I visit my mom almost every afternoon, we smoke, drink tea, and agree on politics and economy. She studied business administration wen she was in the navy and political sciences after she was discharged, I used to study ps too, but I switched to economy. We are both judiciary translators so we work together. We live in Iran.
8.  Jessika Endsley Wednesday, May 21, 2014
That sounds functional for a family of Schizoids, which is just dandy. I feel like it may be a spectrum.
9.  Jarasko Thursday, May 29, 2014
Hello Dizzy, fun and interesting site you have here. I was wondering about the difference between schizoid and the other two you mention, schizotypal and schizo-affective, which I am not familiar with.
I consider myself schizoid, but that is a self-diagnosis, as the clinical descriptions most accurately fit me, but the way you describe it does not fit me: I am not a robot or devoid of emotions or empathy. Quite the opposite. I have strong views on a lot of things; dramatic, emotional movies can affect me strongly; I have great affection and love for my cat, for members of my family. I can easily become angry, annoyed, depressed...quite a range of feeling.
My only close ties are immediate family as those are lifelong bonds, although I can have a couple of male friends as long as they do not take up too much of my time. What I don't need are close friendships that get into my personal space, romantic attachments being the most intrusive and that is what is
hardest for people to understand. Solitude is a pleasure and a privilege.
So I would be interested in why your definition seems quite off from mine. I could be misinformed, it's not something I have studied to excess nor would I seek a professional diagnosis as there's nothing wrong with me. In fact I have read more books about psychopaths than anything else related to psychology, simply because they seem quite alien, bizarre and frightening, and therein seems to be a key to what is wrong with the larger world.
10.  Commony McProletariat Friday, May 30, 2014
Hey, how are you Endsley? I hope you're fine. This app keeps showing me these old replies as new ones. It is like running into someone and not saying Hi, It makes me feel like I am being rude! Have a wonderful day.
11.  Schizoid Thursday, June 19, 2014
Bunch of wannabe schizoids here... lol. Never self diagnose. To the girl who made this video, thank you. It shows people that they actually ARENT schizoid.
12.  Lord Hampton Tuesday, July 8, 2014
I suspect that more than a few self-diagnosed schizoids are simply sufferers of depression.
13.  Jessika Endsley Tuesday, July 8, 2014
I agree. Depression can often include "numbness" and after some time, it becomes almost comfortable.
14.  Jessika Endsley Friday, September 19, 2014
I never even implied schizoids are crazy.
15.  Alex Saturday, October 4, 2014
I've been wondering for a long time now whether I'm a schizoid or not. I'm a healthy person and I play soccer. I love school because I love to learn, but I don't try in school. I just listen to the teacher and never talk, but I never study for tests or anything. But I still make very good grades, I'm on the honor role and everything. I hate it when people ask to hang out with me. Mostly because I don't want to. I like being in my room alone with my own thoughts or on the computer watching tv shows or on youtube. I don't use full blown social media sites such as twitter or facebook. Even though I have a twitter to write or comment on things and I have a facebook to keep notices on my soccer club facebook website. I have a boyfriend, but I hate him. Hes a nice guy, but he always texts me. When I want to be alone in my room to my own thoughts, he texts me and I cant seem to get away from him. My longest relationship has been 2 months, mostly because I never talk to my boyfriends because they annoy me and they never do anything for me in life except buy me food. I also hate it when they try to hold my hand, or kiss me. Anything sexual I hate it. If I had any friend hold my hand or kiss me, I wouldn't care…but I seem to feel forced on when I seem to be dating them..its hard to explain. I don't even know why I even say yes to having a boyfriend. I know I never want one when I say yes. I just keep telling myself do it anyway. I have a hard time establishing how my boyfriend feels, I feel like he doesnt like me because I don't like him. I always have to ask my friends if he likes me or how hes feeling cause I don't know. Hes more of a burden, but hes a nice guy. Its also very hard for me to express myself on these subjects. I'm not like other girls, and when I hear about them talking shit to each other or starting their own drama, I think it's the dumbest thing in the world. I take absolutely no part in it, but I like to hear both sides of the story. I'm friends with alot of people, but I have no close bffs. I don't trust people with my secrets and I don't want to spend the time to hang out with people because I don't care to. When people tell me its their birthday, or their grandparents die, I don't care. The reason I'm basically posting this is because I need to know whats wrong with me. I know it would be hard to tell someones personality from online, but I really do believe I have this. What frustrates me the most is people can never relate to me. They don't think of the same way I do. If my boyfriend cheated on me..I wouldn't care. When my last bf broke up with me(year ago), I didn't care. I always seem to date during soccer season and then right before winter they break up with me. Btw, I've dated 2 people in my life, my current and my one from last year. I felt happy and free when he did. I just need guidance as to what to do. I don't wanna go to a psychologist for this and get diagnosed. Its a waste of money to do so, cause theres no way to treat it cause its apart of your personalty. I'm not looking to treat it, I'm just looking for guidance and understanding. So if anyone could help, id appreciate it:)
16.  juan Monday, December 15, 2014
I'm a self diagnosed schizoid with ADD. As a child I would always be by myself. I only had about 3 friends between the ages of 8 to now. I have no friends now, which really doesn't bother me at all. I have no girlfriend, however I do have sexual urges, but too lazy to talk to a female. My social skills aren't good anyways...bleh
anyways. I work at local cable company and don't speak to any of my co workers unless its work related. Then we count money daily in our cashroom. Everyone there is talking to each other exept me. People probably think I'm odd or selfish, but care what they think. They could all die and wouldn't feel happy, sad, pitty for them. Some females workers like me but I'm too lazy to even chat them up. What could I even talk to them about? I have nothing to say. Schizoid life style is basically "bleh bleh, fuck you and the world...dont care or feel nothing and I'm ok with it....I dont need anyone...leave me alone dont talk to me, prefer to live in my mind with nothingness."
17.  Gina Wednesday, January 21, 2015
It's actually a relief to read what you have to say, because that's pretty much how I am. I used to think something was wrong with me, like i was a psychopath or something. But I'm not violent and I don't lack a moral compass so I ruled that out. After I started googling, I found that Wiki article and it literally helped me understand so much about myself. I had no idea that there were other people out there like me.
I had a boyfriend when i was in my sophomore year of high school, but i also hated him. I have always hated the idea of relationships. I have always been disturbed and disgusted by the idea of marriage and even close friendships.
I agree with everything you've said (I love learning, especially science, I love being alone, chronically cancel all my plans, I cannot give a single crap about other people's problems, yet I don't feel selfish and i still like hearing about it. It's like keeping little mental tabs on people) except for one thing. I used to think I was asexual because of how much I hated kissing and holding hands, turns out I'm aromantic. Anything emotional turns me off so badly that I immediately extricate myself from the situation. Even though I like sex (as long as there's no emotional attachment), I still notice I'm not as attached to it as other people(that or I'm just surrounded by horny people???)
I know what you mean when it comes to being frustrated. Whenever I try to explain myself to other people (not even about being schizoid. just random views and outlooks), they don't get it.
I haven't been to psychologist because i don't think that this is a bad thing. I can stay away from all the bullshit that human relationships throw at you, and genuinely not need them. I'm scared that if i got a professional diagnosis, my family could force me into treatment.
You should know that you aren't alone in this, and I personally don't think it's a bad thing.
18.  Lilly Aleksova Saturday, October 31, 2015
Hello, Jarasko :) I amnot a proffecional or anything, but i have read a bit about it here and there and i know little about the different conditions and how many times the sympthoms of completely different disorders overlap but here i dont suggest you have any disorder by any means, what i think you might be is simply an introvert :) this is not at all a bad thing and in fact one third of the population are introverts. I think you are, based on what you said about your emotions and how you love your family. I don't think that shizoids can love that deeply, even their family-they dont enjoy or desire close relationship with people. What you said was that you dont spend much time with people, qhich is a key characteristic for introverts-they simply recharge their batteries when they are alone, they love to be alone. Something else about them-they have stronger emotions. It is just that some parts of the intoverts brain are more active-their saddness is therefore deeper, but so is their happiness. Once again, being an introvert is not a disorder, some people even think its the better option. But of course I don't know you, i may be wrong, i suggest you read more about it :) Bye and take care
19.  sarah Wednesday, June 22, 2016
Schizoids actually have feelings and emotions, but they're very limited. They have difficulty expressing their emotions and feelings and when they can manage to, they do so on a very limited range.
I suggest, that unless you are a license psychiatrist, or a medically diagnosed Schizoid, you shouldn't be going around telling others what they are and what they aren't.
20.  Rad Radkowski Sunday, September 4, 2016
She is just broad stroking schizoids, when anyone who has general knowledge knows that there are covert/overt symptoms and they aren't black and white. I had the disorder my whole life and I chalked it up to high social anxiety until I was diagnosed at 30 in the military. I never had trouble making friends after the introduction barrier was breached, but my close friendships were very superficial and I would avoid talking about myself at all cost. Now the idea they are logical but not rational is laughable. Most "normal" peoples logic/rationale is deeply overshadowed by their emotions/self interest but my biggest interest is not hating based superficial things like skin color/culture and just leaving people the fuck alone unless they need help. I have fairly high empathy but its hard to walk in other peoples shoes when you have no idea how normal people really act and although I have high disdain for religion in general, I use the Golden Rule as a template for my empathy. So to close I just want to say informed schizoids, self diagnose is probably more accurate than a doctor(although you should confirm) because IMO schizoids will always hold back information because a lot hate putting themselves out there.
21.  Rad Radkowski Sunday, September 4, 2016
Never self diagnose? If you had SPD you would realize that most schizoids will hold back information to protect themselves and doctors are only as good as the information they are presented with. The idea that there are wanna be schizoid is just idiotic and ignorant.
22.  Rad Radkowski Sunday, September 4, 2016
This is a classic example of broad brushing and confirmation bias.She has the limited view that all schizoids are the same and that just isn't true. I just don't really care about personal friendships/relationships because it has little to offer me and I don't like doing what other people consider fun(much rather play xbox/watch something I want to watch) but when she said schizoids "don't care" I think she is confusing it with sociopath(or doesnt know what she is talking about) because I personally care/think deeply about what happens in the world and if you didn't then that would show a lack of empathy, which is a warning sign for psychopaths.
23.  Evan Arnold Monday, September 5, 2016
I think some do and some dont, they're all different. I'm a schizoid and a psychopath so those two things mix together interestingly. I have a few friends who are similar to me and for every few days we hangout we need about a week alone
24.  Rad Radkowski Tuesday, September 6, 2016
Yeah, sorry it just upsets me when people act like this is a elusive club and they are special when in reality its devastating. I don't really get what you are going through but I feel for you. Schizoids are riddled with multiple disorder symptoms and this "blogger" is just being incentive.
25.  Evan Arnold Wednesday, September 7, 2016
Honestly I am glad I am the way I am. But it is annoying when these people are close minded and try to tell us to get treatment and get a professional diagnosis
26.  Any Rebel Saturday, October 1, 2016
What's it called when you don't express emotion but constantly feeling and caring too much about other people?
27.  James Friday, December 16, 2016
I realize this is a somewhat necro'd thread, but I'll comment all the same. As per what Rad said, believing that all schizoids are the same is like believing all non-schizoids are the same - likely true in some general sense, but it fails to account for all the individual tendencies which make individuals individuals. As for what Sarah was saying, she's both correct and incorrect; schizoids tend to have difficulty expressing feelings, but don't have difficulty feeling them. The difference is largely what triggers emotions: whereas most people have emotional reactions to what others say or do (is complimenting their work, or hair, etc.) Schizoids tend to have their emotions triggered by more internal events. This doesn't make us any more unfeeling, it's simply that different stimuli trigger an emotional response.
28.  aanon Sunday, January 22, 2017
Well, I am a schizoid. Like you, I generally don't care about other people. The reason I self-diagnose myself as such is because in my country, people tend to misview such point of view as an anti-social person, which is simply wrong. Generally, I only have one close friend and even then, I don't have any particular strong connection to him, I generally enjoy his company, but that's it, and while I don't consider having emotions a bad thing (except being oversensitive), I have never developed strong feelings for anyone in my life, even my family, and I don't necessarily view it as concerning or bad, so I suppose I am schizoid.
29.  Yamma May Monday, April 10, 2017
You may be thinking of Borderline Personality Disorder...
30.  Yamma May Monday, April 10, 2017
Agreed. Not all Schizoids are the same. For instance, I don't perform poorly in school (unless it is something I really don't want to bother with, but my grades are still outstanding). I also sometimes take charge in a group if I know that I am the only one capable of leading the group where it needs to go to do whatever. But that's my only point in a group that I am forced into--just to do the work and try to keep others on track.
"like they don't care about the rest of the population"
Wow, this really makes us seem like psychopaths or sociopaths, as you pointed out. I may not get involved in others' affairs or really care about what is going on in someone else's life, but I do have some care for the population as a whole. Not to the level of an activist, but it does bother me that there are things in the world such as human trafficking and killing others for being born a little different. I'm not going to go out of my way to do something about all the world's problems, but if some kid came to my door having escaped 6 years in captivity, I'm going to help the kid out.
Honestly, I'm taking this poster with a grain of salt. What is her credibility? Does she have SzPD or has she just read about it? I honestly would not be surprised if the latter, because it felt like I was just reading a shorter, less formal, less clear version of the Wikipedia page on Schizoid Personlity Disorder...
31.  Yamma May Monday, April 10, 2017
Not to mention that it is hard to get a diagnosis for something like this, because it is commonly misdiagnosed for something else, like Asperger's. I was originally misdiagnosed with Asperger's, but that didn't seem right. 2 years later, after being forced back into therapy for a few weeks, my diagnosis was changed to "PD-NOS", which is basically a big category to lump in disorders that the doctor is not really sure about. When I found out about SzPD and realized I had it, I tried to get my diagnosis changed a year later. Apparently, to have a diagnosis changed, you have to enter ANOTHER treatment plan for a certain period of time, and will only be diagnosed if the therapist thinks you fit with a different diagnosis than the one you were already given. Like hell I want to deal with useless, time-consuming therapy for who knows how long just for the CHANCE of the therapist realizing I'm Schizoid and not just trying to diagnose me with something else. Some therapists don't even know what SzPD is and will just look to the DSM for their diagnosis. How useless. There is more to the condition than what is listed in the DSM, and what is in the DSM is also listed symptoms of OTHER conditions. Again, useless.
There are people who mistake themselves as Schizoids because they just look at the DSM or articles like this one and think that's all there is to it. I know there are people like this because I run a Schizoid chat room and blog, and I occasionally run into these mistaken individuals. The issue is that non-Schizoids don't truly understand the condition, yet they are the ones in charge of diagnosing it. Which is why I am one day going to create the most accurate Schizoid test possible as well as write a book, "The Ultimate Guide to the Schizoid".....as soon as I have the proper motivation to start, that is...
Also, agreed on the bit about holding back information. In my case, I did that so that I would not have to be in therapy for longer than I would already have to be. I knew that if I said one wrong thing, she would advise a new "treatment plan" for my mother to agree to. Ultimately, when it comes to commonly misunderstood and misrepresented conditions such as SzPD, therapists and the DSM are absolutely useless. Only by talking with fellow Schizoids can you be sure of whether you have the condition or not...
32.  Yamma May Monday, April 10, 2017
Yes, you are a "covert Schizoid". The writer of this article was generalizing over Schizoids. There is an entire spectrum of SzPD. We do not all share the same characteristics or else we would not be different people at all!
33.  Justanotherface. Friday, November 3, 2017
I don't think I am schizoid, but I sure as hell share a lot of traits in common with them. The mere fact that I am responding here, makes it clear that I am seeking some sort of engagement with others, which would negate the possibility of being schizoid in the first place, at least it would negate my understanding of what a schizoid is in the first place.
I find that conversation on the Internet fills my need for social interaction, real life conversations are in a way annoying, and not at all desired. I don't want to talk to my neighbors, or anyone really. I do love my family, but I would rather keep communication at a minimum, just to the point where we maintain a cohesion of unity.
In some ways, I wish I could get rid of any need for socializing with others, including on the Internet, such as I am doing now. It would be so much more productive, if I did not want to communicate with others online, and I could spend more time doing what I want rather than this unnecessary desire to engage with people online.
I'm the kind of person, who probably would survive an apocalyptic scenario and be on my own, so long as the basics were covered such as food and shelter, I would be able to keep myself entertained without losing my mind due to loneliness. Sure, I would miss the Internet, the loss of lives would make me feel sad, but I would have the capacity to go solo and keep myself in good spirits.
The sad thing is, I am not at all representing myself with very much accuracy. This is the first time I have posted to social media in a while. I thought the article was interesting though, and am curious if anyone will respond, especially nearly four years after it was published.
I'll bookmark this page, and come back from time to time to see if anyone has replied.
34.  Sarah Vaughter Friday, November 3, 2017
I find conversations online even more annoying than in person :-)
35.  Hawley Thursday, December 7, 2017
I come from a family of schizoids. My grandfather had 4 brothers. He was the only one who married. My father has one friend, my mother. Neither of them socialize with anyone else. I'm 60. Never married, never dated. Trade markets so I interact only with a computer screen. I've worked out religiously for 45 years. Scary fit. I don't want to date. Not looking to socialize. And I don't need fixing. My world is physical. There is constant pressure from the outside world to conform to the standard model of coupling and socializing. That's not me. John Maynard Keenes said something to the effect of, "People would rather see you fail conventionally than succeed unconventionally." In other words,"the world would rather see you paired with an angry woman in a sexless relationship, than have you be happy and alone, because the first one is common and the world can understand and relate to it." I am always alone but never lonely. I don't need help. Do what you want, but leave me out of it. I'm busy.
36.  Maydie Thursday, January 4, 2018
The problem with ' the no feelings ' has to do with if you are a feeler or not. I feel much inside, am sensitive and i still dont care much. I.am a big thinker too, introvert and have a very strong intuition. Actualy i.am a 100 procent INTP-Thinker, and the dsm calls it schizoid. Learning the cognitive functions about yourself is very helpfull, at least for me. I say, do the ' myers briggs typology ' test ( based on Carl Jungs dept psychology ) check it out and explore yourself deeper, enneagram, or big 5' tests for example are helpfull too.. actualy all of it. My enneagram is 5 and need to go to nine, i.am on my way and still on the right personal track, how bitter i may feel sometimes.. am not loneley but just a ' alone ' being.
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